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Lord Sassafrass :

Interview by Trevor Williams
Copyright © Jamaica Way Productions 1990, 2003

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In the world of horseracing there exists a lone 225-pound jockey. Towering above his peers this jock causes horses at the track to kick and rail upon his arrival. Astonished, the chosen horse enters the starting gate realizing at that instant that this “heavy” jock is effortlessly riding upon its back. The gate opens and this fine thoroughbred laps the other entries with the careful skills of its jockey who has done this so many times before. Victorious, Lord Sassafrass dismounts and is awarded the title.

Jamaica’s love for horseracing and of music runs deep and unobscured. Jamaican dj Lord Sassafrass was the first to popularize a combination between horseracing and Jamaican music. Although he had dreams of being a jockey as a child, Sassafrass never realized his dream at the track, but rather in the dancehall.

In addition to the “horseman style,” Sassafrass also originated the obeah (roughly interpreted as voodoo or black magic) style of reggae music. Many a dance in Jamaica featured Sassafrass pouring his obeah linked Kumina and Pocomania lyrics over the crowd.

The following is an interview with Lord Sassafrass:

Q: Who’s the man with the “concrete voice?”

A: The General. The “Younger Horseman.” [General Trees]

Q: Did you find him?

A: He come from the same area. He come from Drewsland and I come from Maverley. On the other side of the gully bank from Drewsland you have Half Pint, you have Junior Reid, you have Tubby’s, and you have Jammy’s. Echo Minott and Tenor Saw come from Maverley.

Q: Was Trees djing when you met him?

A: Yeah man, me find him. He was a lickle youth in the area at the shoemaker work. I tell him come hold the mic. That time ’83, you know. Then I leave to go a New York. I jus’ give him a mic and tell him seh, “Yo, control Black Scorpio and make sure every night you work you have new lyrics; don’t stop write them.” By the time ’84 come, me call him, him mash up the place. The “Younger Horseman.” It we that start the harmony business pon dj. We bring the two mic, the three mic business. Me, Echo Minott and Trees first started it. Inna dancehall. One singer, two dj pon it.

Q: Now, did you dj with General Echo for quite a period of time?

A: Is like dance a politics, a politician dance, inna my area. A man she, “Listen our dj, hear our dj dj the mic.” Echo gimme. Echo chat a lyrics: “Bend your back, pull up your foot, lie down gal, mek me push it up.” An’ me she: “Bend your back, touch your toe, Sassa round a back and play tic, tac, toe.” Then Echo come back again an start talk ‘bout underwear with jus’ brassiere business. Me jus’ draw a next one bout jolly bus (transportation bus). Tell them “yeah!” Echo seh, “You come with me, we start parring (sparring, singing together) and then jus’ branch off to Desmond (the producer of Sassafrass’ first recorded song, “Story of Roots”).

Q: What happened before you went to Desmond?

A: Echo was down at the West End (of Kingston) man. Pure gunshot, was bad in there.

Q: And you didn’t like that.

A: No, so me stay inna my area. Play a lot of football an those days. Me live a Marverley, Desmond live a Patrick City. He have a sound in Patrick City. So we jus’ tek over the sound and the road block.

Q: The sound?

A: Soul Expert.

Q: Was he (Desmond) the background man or was he the front man?

A: He own the sound.

Q: But he didn’t select or dj?

A: No, him brother. John Saddlehead.

Q: Saddlehead? As in a riding saddle? He must have quite a head, huh?

A: Saddlehead. [laughter] An one time now we a play pon de street an Echo playin’ behind me. We right here and Echo playin’ behind us. An everybody she, “Yow what’s gonna happen now?” Echo roun’ dere, 10:00, 11:00 they cyaan see Sassafrass come. Dem seh, Yo, Sassafrass runnin’ man! He’s sherrifin’ chicken out.” Me jus’ ride a horse come.

Q: Where did you get the horse?

A: Me fadda train horses.

Q: So what were you thinking as you rode down the street before you hit the crowd?

A: Me tinking. True Echo have a name, I won’t turn up. Me turn up and everybody come my dance cos the horse was an attraction.

Q: OK that was ’72 when you started out with Echo?

A: No, before that.

Q: OK, so this was probably ’72, ’73 with the horse. What happened that night?

A: We have the most crowd. Our dance have the most crowd. From that now on Soul Expert jus’ rule the whole place. It rule Patrick City, Duhaney Park, Washington Gardens.

Interview by Trevor Williams
Copyright © Jamaica Way Productions 1990, 2003

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